Posts by BlackSwan of Memphis

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hmmmm I wonder

by BlackSwan of Memphis in

i wonder if its possible to formally disfellowship schizm, scholar and the other dub apologists?.

what if we unanimously decided that it was time to shun them and not respond to one word they have to say?.

meagan

Hm, Dave, I think you really have hit the nail on the head. That is what the scriptures were referring to, sometimes I suppose they just get to me and for all the disfellowshipping that the witnesses do, the not so nice side of me, every once in a while, would like to see them get treated that way.

yes, I know it's Not Christ like, I know it's not nice, I know it sounds completely rude, I know that it makes me just like them... just every so often, it bothers me to no end.

In my every day life, I can't do what I suggested. When I really sit back and think about it, if I knew Scholar on a personal level and he was behaving in just the same manner, for as angry and hurt as I could possibly feel... seriously, I am just not the kind of person who could push them away.

Maybe it's possible, that Scholar has a heart. That Schizm is in reality the kind of guy that if I didn't know who he was here, I could sit back and have a cup of coffee and shoot the breeze with.

So, I concede, I concede.

Whenever they start to get to me, I'll just poke my scholar and schizm dolls with pins and....

(oops) I mean I'll pray for them.

meagan

16

Nightmares?

by elliej in

i don't know if anyone else has this problem or if i'm just crazy.

i have been attempting to fade.

my family recently moved to a new area and we have never attended the kh here.

BlackSwan of Memphis

Yes, constantly. Everything from my family to the elder I sent my letter to.

I do think it fades after time. Mine kicked in within the last month or so.

Maybe the lack of sleep is why I'm getting so crabby.

It can take an awful lot out of a person emotionally to do what you are doing. Hang in there, the passing of time does help.

meagan

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Why do ex-JWs try so hard to uncover WTS dirt?

by Lady Lee in

far too many times i have heard the accusation that all x-jws want to do is tear down the wts.

we scrounge around digging up every piece of information that we can that will put the wts in a bad light.

"they" being those who seek to defend the wts and forget the past because ... well it is the past and there is so much "new light".

BlackSwan of Memphis

Those that came before me, that started digging for that dirt, are those that have help pave a smoother road for us new ones. Why? It needed to be done. Someone had to start digging to get to the bottom of it all. Whether the WTS likes it or not, it is always a matter of time before the real truth comes to light. It isn't a matter of dirt, it's a matter of truth vs lie, light vs dark. Everything that Jesus stood for, to me, comes down to a few simple things, one of which being truth.

meagan

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hmmmm I wonder

by BlackSwan of Memphis in

i wonder if its possible to formally disfellowship schizm, scholar and the other dub apologists?.

what if we unanimously decided that it was time to shun them and not respond to one word they have to say?.

meagan

BlackSwan of Memphis

Sherry and Willow:

Ok, great points from both of you and you're right.

I guess what I am thinking is:

There is a time and a place to take certain people out of your life. If Schizm, Scholar and the rest would be a bit more respectful, taking into consideration they're human and would slip up, if they would show a bit of respect to us, as long we try to respect them, I would not have as much of a problem with them.

Seems like they show up out of the woodwork with something nasty to say.

But you guys are right. It brings us down to their level.

Guess after dealing with that kind of stuff most of my life, I just want it out.

meagan

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Sent my letter in yesterday

by HockeyMullet in

five pages of therapy and they probably won't get past the first sentence that says i'm disassociating myself from the corporation (oh well).

i just wanted to say that i've been lurking here for awhile and that this is really a helpful forum.

lots of good info and advice!

BlackSwan of Memphis

Welcome to the board! Congratulations on your departure from the org.

meagan

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hmmmm I wonder

by BlackSwan of Memphis in

i wonder if its possible to formally disfellowship schizm, scholar and the other dub apologists?.

what if we unanimously decided that it was time to shun them and not respond to one word they have to say?.

meagan

BlackSwan of Memphis

I wonder if It’s possible to formally disfellowship schizm, scholar and the other dub apologists?

What if we unanimously decided that it was time to shun them and not respond to one word they have to say?

meagan

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And on the 8th day. God created the Beer Widget

by AlmostAtheist in

jw
friends

have you popped a can of guinness and heard that fwoosh sound?

you have surely waggled the can and heard that little thing knocking about inside?

that little thing is one of the 20th century's greatest contributions to mankind -- the beer widget.

BlackSwan of Memphis

I especially liked the sound effects that were provided. Fwooosh. Sounds good just making the noise.

Such a, a...peaceful sound. Not much different then the peaceful swoosh of a waterfall.

in all seriousnes..... never knew the science behind the little ball, vewy intewesting.

meagan

60

got my stopwatch.............

by BlackSwan of Memphis in

let's say you have 20 seconds (give or take) to make an impression on a jw.

to say something that will stick in their head and make them really think.

because you know, that once they realize you are an apostate, they will shut down anything else that you have to say.. what do you say?.

BlackSwan of Memphis

thx onesong! (good comment!) I got a card from an elder requesting that I meet with him and another elder. I didn't. I sent him another letter with a little more reasoning and restated where I stood. The family burned their letters, I supposed they had to make sure that they couldn't tape the pieces back together and read it when their curiosity got the better of them...or worse, those demons tape it back together.

schizm, all 850,000 species??? oh, oikay.

meagan

60

got my stopwatch.............

by BlackSwan of Memphis in

let's say you have 20 seconds (give or take) to make an impression on a jw.

to say something that will stick in their head and make them really think.

because you know, that once they realize you are an apostate, they will shut down anything else that you have to say.. what do you say?.

BlackSwan of Memphis

stopwatch broke......but..

wow, you know good stuff.

finding those points that will make a person think. There is no end to what one could say...

I've thought and thought, if I got one chance to make an impression..there is just so much that bothers me, I don't know that there is one thing that bothers me more then the next. It seems like sometimes all the points that have been made start to intertwine and weave, until the different threads become one pattern that easily id's them.

(I'm saving this page because all the points brought out are really good)

meagan

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What made you lose your joy in serving Jehovah?

by JH in

jw
friends

we all started off as happy witnesses, except for those dragged into this religion by force as kids.. in my case, i found that there were way too many meetings.

then seeing the new system being constantly pushed back, and finally when i saw a lack of true love in the congregation.

and when they hinted that probably there wouldn't be any sex and marriage for the resurrected ones.

BlackSwan of Memphis

It was a process. Little things that added up. I had a friend who was df'ed at one point in her life, went through a rough patch, and when she came out of it, reinstated but on the edge, I asked her what was up with the "truth" and she flat out said she didn't want to lose her family again. I remember thinking, that's not fair. A person should be worshipping God in this particular way, because they believe that it is the right way, not out of fear of losing their family.

Then after I had my kids and dragged 'em to the stupid da in the summer. That Pontiac silverdome is hot and awful in the summer. All the guys walking around with the signs telling us mothers Sit Down. Ok, well, my 2 year old is tired and teething and you tell her to sit down. I felt bad for them. It was ridiculous. People walking in the circle of the silverdome, around and around. Seeing the same parents with their kids doing the same thing, seeing the same brothers get snarled at for doing their job. At one point I tried to sit on the lawn just outside the door under a small tree to see if I could get my daughter to nap, a brother came up and told me to get off.

Then there were the mothers who beat the bleepity bleep out of their kids to sit still and be quiet.

Trying to explain to my husbands family why I couldn't do Christmas, but my family could have a huge family gathering on Christmas.

People trying to force me to take my kids out in service, when my older one was going through a phase of insecurity.

I could probably think of more, but for now...

meagan